Islam and Christians

Islam and Christian

two way streak

Christianity and Islam are the largest religions in the world and share a historical and traditional connection, with some major theological differences. The two faiths share a common place of origin in the Middle East, and consider themselves to be monotheistic.

Christianity developed out of Second Temple Judaism in the 1st century CE. It is founded on the life, teachings, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and those who follow him are called Christians.^[1]

Islam is a monotheistic religion that developed in the 7th century CE. Islam, which literally means "surrender" or "submission" (to God), was founded on the teachings of Muhammadas an expression of surrender to the will of Allah.^[2]

Muslims have a range of views on Christianity, from viewing Christians to be fellow possessors of monotheistic scriptures to regarding them as heretics. Christian views on Islam are diverse and range from considering Islam a fellow Abrahamic religion worshipping the same God, to believing Islam to be heresy or an unrelated cult.

Christianity and Islam both consider Jesus to be the Jewish Messiah of the Hebrew scripture. Christians generally consider Jesus to be the Son of God, while Muslims consider the Trinity to be a division of God's Oneness and a grave sin (shirk). Muslims believe Jesus (Isa) to be a messenger of God, not the son of God.

Christianity and Islam have different scriptures, with Christianity using the Bible and Islam using the Quran, however Muslims believe that Gospel was also sent by God beforehand. Both texts offer an account of the life and works of Jesus. Belief in Jesus is a fundamental part of Islamic theology, and Muslims view the Christian Injeel as altered, while Christians consider Gospels to be authoritative and the Quran to be a later, fabricated or apocryphal work. Both religions believe in the Virgin birth of Jesus through Mary, but the Biblical and Islamic accounts differ.

Goerge..

When you think about it. When one can prove Jesus is Lord, then the Muslims are wrong. If I find Jesus to be a messenger of God then the Christians are wrong.

I wish I could talk to this man. With God's grace I think He'd be surprised with the things I got in my mind. Bestowed in me by God.

This Questions was presented in the video. This Muslim guy posed this one question: where does Jesus claim to be God. Well this question has been running for some time. So I tend to solve this matter. By my findings, within the Bible.

The fella also asked why most Christians don't circumcise. Which I find a stupid question. You can't ask Bible followers that. Cause they are a bad representation to the Bible. Same goes with every religion. I mean its like asking a Hindu: Your religion says don't eat secret cow, but yet a lot of you eats those cows. That means nothing. It will probably mean Hindu religion has a lot of unfaithful people, but nothing more. Same applies to Muslim and Christians.

Where does Jesus claim to be Lord?

Well Here:

Matthew 16

13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 

John 10:36 - 39

I and the Father Are One

³⁶ do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, You are blaspheming, because I said, I am the Son of God? ³⁷ If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me;

Well there you go, Jesus openly admits and confrims to being God himself in human flesh. It was very important to me as well to prove that Jesus claims to be Lord through the Bible. Why the Bible? The Islam belief acknowledges Jesus disciples and they do believe that Jesus walked with them. So what is written in the Bible can be considered truth to the Islam belief.

In addition, the Qur'an calls the Bible the Word of God (kalam Allah) in Sura 2:75, the Book of God (kitab Allah) in Sura 2:101; 3:23; 5:44; 28:49, and the enlightening book in Sura 3:184. Further, the Qur'an teaches that Allah Himself sent the Law (of Moses) and the Gospels: "It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)" (Sura 3:3).

The Qur'an calls the Bible, or parts of the Bible, a light (Sura 5:44, 46), an example (Sura 11:17), and a warning (Sura 17:4). It also states that the authors of the Bible were inspired (Sura 4:163; 5:111).

So if I want to disprove the Islam belief I can actually use the Bible or even the Quran itself. The discples wrote of their propet Jesus and the Bible has the Torah which are both required for spiritual learning in the Islam world. So if the Bible Jesus claims to be Lord that absolutely controdicts the Islam world.

Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. 35 It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. (19:34-35, Yusif Ali)

Here is where the Quran claims Jesus not to be the Son of God, but a prophet. But the Bible as shown above says different.

Perhaps the Gentil man does not understand the circumcision in spiritual contexts. He based his attention to the circumcision of human context. Let us look what the Bible views circumcision:

"Behold, the days are coming," says the LORD, "that I will punish all who are circumcised with the uncircumcised -
"Egypt, Judah, Edom, the people of Ammon, Moab and all who are in the farthest corners, who who dwell in the wilderness. For all these nations areuncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are unicircumcised in the heart."

Jeremiah 9:25-26
New King James Version

Corinthians 7:19 “For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God.”

Colossians 2:11 “In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ.”

The key to this verse is that circumcision of the flesh is useless compared to “the circumcision of Christ,” which means a circumcision of the heart. This circumcision of the heart had nothing to do with that done with the hands as it’s seen as work’s oriented salvation.

Goerge

So Jesus in Christianity brought a new form of circumcision. almost like Circumcision 2.0 if you may say. 

I choose not to make conclusions for people.

One thing that the guy said is if my religion is wrong yours must be right and vice versa. I think I proved my point with this beautiful findings.

I just want to say something. Every one, and I means everyone. From anthropologist to other religious individuals believe in the exsistance of Jesus Christ. there is no doubt about his divine exsistence because of his divine proof.

"Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus"
Title:	Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus
ISSN:	1476-8690
Publisher Information:	Brill Academic Publishers Plantijnstraat 2 Leiden 2321 JC Netherlands
Bibliographic Records:	01/01/2003 to present
Full Text:	01/01/2003 to present (with a 36 Month delay)  *Full text delay due to publisher restrictions ("embargo")
Publication Type:	Academic Journal
Subjects:	History of Christianity

Look out for this Journal. Proof that the modern Science world won't doubt his existence.

Goerge
Take a look at the Goerge Link. It is National Geography covering the story of the paths Jesus took. So the question is who is correct, the Muslim or Christian.
The Christians believe that Jesus died on the cross and three days later rose again.
The Muslims believe Jesus did not die on the cross, and he was a messenger of God.
So this sort of stands between whether or not Jesus died on the cross.

See if there are so much rich evidence of Jesus resurrection, all supporting he died on the cross then THE QURAN MUST BE WRONG.
See if anyone can know just two things about Jesus, outside the context of the Bible or Quran, is that he really did die on the cross and he did have followers.

. "Greek historians, Italian historians, Isreals history... Jewish historians say Jesus died on the cross"

It is history to proclaim that Jesus died on the cross. It is not an opinion.












To prove that the Muslims are not suppose to believe that Jesus died on the cross is in the Quran.
The Quran says: 4:157

Haleem—[Jews] said, ‘We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God.’ (They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, though it was made to appear like that to them; those that disagreed about him are full of doubt, with no knowledge to follow, only supposition: they certainly did not kill him.)

Sahih International—And for their saying, ‘Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.’ And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but another was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

So here. I broke up the two most popular religions to the core.


But where do you stand?
Do you believe in if there was a God that he will be 100 percent accurate and never makes a mistake? Same applies to the Holy book. Quran says as well in Surah 4 verse 82 that what ever is in the Quran is from Allah (the God).
So what now? If I just proved the Quran to being wrong, then what? How can one deny truth and claim to be of pursuit of truth.

Goerge, I hope I was able to break in to your spiritual self. And dig deep with belief.